i really enjoyed the wide ranging discussion, learned of and learned some new stuff.
i smiled a bit at kate's pushing back at losing the audience with a 'they doing' and 'why are they doing' something.
somehow that seems to me be connected with something that has become an increasingly big 'thing've been wrestling with: what is *true* and how do we *know* what is true? this is a big challenge since we live in a time that may be the turning point of the past effectiveness of 'where the truth lies is true'.
it has become clear to me that the accepted lie is what allows us to be separated from what is true. so why the small lies and why the big social lies we have been propagandised and/or brutalised to accept as true? to remove our personal power and the awareness that it is when we are 100% responsible for this life that we are free.
what has this to do with the interview: the push back by people against know what is true. yes, michelle, such a great example of that. and as the convid has shown, nothing has significantly/ really changed: as a whole, we have societally we are more comfortable with living the lie than not, and thus thrust lies onto the world in order to propagate the truth of that lie as the source or comfort. for me much of the alt-news is if not overtly controlled then subvertly controlled by the need to continue the lie of our disempowerment and to blame something/someone else for life.
so why lie?
in a recent article, on my discovery that the moon landing was fake, i realised it was to contribute to separating us from truth; once we have been separated in the right way, we will collectively willingly, even joyfully, walk up to be injected with an unknown chemical because we truth the lie. why? control of the many by the few. not rocket science. the few have frequently expressed both the concern for and disdain of the few beyond gardeners and plumbers — and their hope that even those few pesky 'needed' humans can be replaced by ai robots.
in the 80s i would be asked 'do you believe in conspiracies?' i would answer something like this: so about 5% or less of the population control more than 95% of the wealth.' (this was back in the 80s so not quite as concentrated as it is now. 'so, what about the 5% of them? how much do they control and do they know each other? lots and of course. and so when they decide that they want somehing 'good' (for them) they have the means and opportunity to do so.' so control of the masses is one of their biggest concerns.
once the why is accepted — that much of the very powerful have the means and intention to exercise their self-deluded ideas of 'goodness' the rest is much easier to understand. i understand kate's concern that michelle will scare away the truth deniers — well, we have all these bad things and they have been over the centuries just a series of mostly uni-directional malevolencies' doesn't cut the muster in the long haul.
michelle's point is valid: if the map makers have an intention to mis-guide us, where does that stop? the cry 'omg! map-makers? shut up you conspiracy lunatic. there isn't anyone making the maps we live by!' that person is completely asleep and there is no conversation: they are deluded by their own truth-speak often rooted in the moral compassion used to remove compassion from the filthy dirty others.
and a great example of the map-making is the new age movement! it is a weak-limbed lily livered argument that 'oh, well, they — if they exist — wouldn't do that because it would be mean' is a form of asinine new age denialism that — oh right! the people controlling the masses created new age denialism of life as the map that doesn't show the cliffs! yup, new age babble is a confused map.
again, michelle's next point is that the wake up call happens when it — something, an event, usually — is close to the heart in some way. until then, delusion knows no bounds, and is always the other person's problem, especially if the other person can be labeled a conspiracy quack. oh, right, more nlp from the cia.
are people waking up? the convid was a wake up to many people. and perhaps the long convid is contributing to that. in a local department store in mexico i saw a couple of months ago i saw a man, likely a tourist, looking a bit out of place. i approached him, said hello and asked him where is was from. 'ireland'. we had a nice chat and eventually he asked me why i was in mexico. i told him that i live here when i left canadian medical and social tyranny after the convid injection became mandatory to keep my job. i said it flat, without anger or bitterness or any feeling of animosity. it was my story, that's it. his response was astonishing! 'yes,' he said. 'yes, that was the right thing to do. my uncle died, a cousin too. ever since the vaccine my father can't breathe properly and an aunt is struggling as well.
many years ago i was given a powerful truth seeking north star from the i ching:
When we are faced with an obstacle that is to be overcome, weakness and impatience can do nothing. Strong individuals stand up to this situation with equanimity, for inner security enables the strong to endure to the end. This strength shows itself in uncompromising truthfulness with themselves. It is only when we have the courage to face things, other people and ourselves in the circumstances of life in this moment, exactly as they are without any sort of self deception or illusion, that we recognise that we have the strength to see the light that develops out of events by which the path to success may be recognised.
anyway, such a long response to just a tiny fraction of the discussion.
we are living the bhagavad-gita wedded to the great apocalypse! all the best with what is changing. everything changes! with peace, respect, love and equanimous enthusiasm.
🙏❤️🧘♂️🙌☯️🙌🧘♂️❤️🙏
okay, small synchronicity.
after closing this comment, i returned to my email and a subject line is:
"Megyn Kelly: “I Really, Really Regret Having Gotten the Vaccine”": "Megyn Kelly RAGES against medical establishment...as she opens up about battle against a 'condition' brought on by the COVID vax."
and so edited my comment to include that — when i chose not to include a small list of big people who had been injured by injection as their close enough wake-up call to the great con. do you have the courage 'to face things exactly as they are, without any self deception or illusion?' hmmmm. tough. that is the story of the bhagavad-gita: how to develop the courage, with yoga, to face life exactly as it is and for each of us to be 100% responsible for our choices and actions within it, without an iota of blame or complain.
hola, kate and michelle.
i really enjoyed the wide ranging discussion, learned of and learned some new stuff.
i smiled a bit at kate's pushing back at losing the audience with a 'they doing' and 'why are they doing' something.
somehow that seems to me be connected with something that has become an increasingly big 'thing've been wrestling with: what is *true* and how do we *know* what is true? this is a big challenge since we live in a time that may be the turning point of the past effectiveness of 'where the truth lies is true'.
it has become clear to me that the accepted lie is what allows us to be separated from what is true. so why the small lies and why the big social lies we have been propagandised and/or brutalised to accept as true? to remove our personal power and the awareness that it is when we are 100% responsible for this life that we are free.
what has this to do with the interview: the push back by people against know what is true. yes, michelle, such a great example of that. and as the convid has shown, nothing has significantly/ really changed: as a whole, we have societally we are more comfortable with living the lie than not, and thus thrust lies onto the world in order to propagate the truth of that lie as the source or comfort. for me much of the alt-news is if not overtly controlled then subvertly controlled by the need to continue the lie of our disempowerment and to blame something/someone else for life.
so why lie?
in a recent article, on my discovery that the moon landing was fake, i realised it was to contribute to separating us from truth; once we have been separated in the right way, we will collectively willingly, even joyfully, walk up to be injected with an unknown chemical because we truth the lie. why? control of the many by the few. not rocket science. the few have frequently expressed both the concern for and disdain of the few beyond gardeners and plumbers — and their hope that even those few pesky 'needed' humans can be replaced by ai robots.
in the 80s i would be asked 'do you believe in conspiracies?' i would answer something like this: so about 5% or less of the population control more than 95% of the wealth.' (this was back in the 80s so not quite as concentrated as it is now. 'so, what about the 5% of them? how much do they control and do they know each other? lots and of course. and so when they decide that they want somehing 'good' (for them) they have the means and opportunity to do so.' so control of the masses is one of their biggest concerns.
once the why is accepted — that much of the very powerful have the means and intention to exercise their self-deluded ideas of 'goodness' the rest is much easier to understand. i understand kate's concern that michelle will scare away the truth deniers — well, we have all these bad things and they have been over the centuries just a series of mostly uni-directional malevolencies' doesn't cut the muster in the long haul.
michelle's point is valid: if the map makers have an intention to mis-guide us, where does that stop? the cry 'omg! map-makers? shut up you conspiracy lunatic. there isn't anyone making the maps we live by!' that person is completely asleep and there is no conversation: they are deluded by their own truth-speak often rooted in the moral compassion used to remove compassion from the filthy dirty others.
and a great example of the map-making is the new age movement! it is a weak-limbed lily livered argument that 'oh, well, they — if they exist — wouldn't do that because it would be mean' is a form of asinine new age denialism that — oh right! the people controlling the masses created new age denialism of life as the map that doesn't show the cliffs! yup, new age babble is a confused map.
again, michelle's next point is that the wake up call happens when it — something, an event, usually — is close to the heart in some way. until then, delusion knows no bounds, and is always the other person's problem, especially if the other person can be labeled a conspiracy quack. oh, right, more nlp from the cia.
are people waking up? the convid was a wake up to many people. and perhaps the long convid is contributing to that. in a local department store in mexico i saw a couple of months ago i saw a man, likely a tourist, looking a bit out of place. i approached him, said hello and asked him where is was from. 'ireland'. we had a nice chat and eventually he asked me why i was in mexico. i told him that i live here when i left canadian medical and social tyranny after the convid injection became mandatory to keep my job. i said it flat, without anger or bitterness or any feeling of animosity. it was my story, that's it. his response was astonishing! 'yes,' he said. 'yes, that was the right thing to do. my uncle died, a cousin too. ever since the vaccine my father can't breathe properly and an aunt is struggling as well.
many years ago i was given a powerful truth seeking north star from the i ching:
When we are faced with an obstacle that is to be overcome, weakness and impatience can do nothing. Strong individuals stand up to this situation with equanimity, for inner security enables the strong to endure to the end. This strength shows itself in uncompromising truthfulness with themselves. It is only when we have the courage to face things, other people and ourselves in the circumstances of life in this moment, exactly as they are without any sort of self deception or illusion, that we recognise that we have the strength to see the light that develops out of events by which the path to success may be recognised.
I Ching 5 Hsu / Waiting (Nourishment) p.25 Baynes/Wilhelm (my edit)
anyway, such a long response to just a tiny fraction of the discussion.
we are living the bhagavad-gita wedded to the great apocalypse! all the best with what is changing. everything changes! with peace, respect, love and equanimous enthusiasm.
🙏❤️🧘♂️🙌☯️🙌🧘♂️❤️🙏
okay, small synchronicity.
after closing this comment, i returned to my email and a subject line is:
"Megyn Kelly: “I Really, Really Regret Having Gotten the Vaccine”": "Megyn Kelly RAGES against medical establishment...as she opens up about battle against a 'condition' brought on by the COVID vax."
https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/megyn-kelly-i-really-really-regre
and so edited my comment to include that — when i chose not to include a small list of big people who had been injured by injection as their close enough wake-up call to the great con. do you have the courage 'to face things exactly as they are, without any self deception or illusion?' hmmmm. tough. that is the story of the bhagavad-gita: how to develop the courage, with yoga, to face life exactly as it is and for each of us to be 100% responsible for our choices and actions within it, without an iota of blame or complain.
Always fascinated by your conversations. So much resonates with my own experiences.
Which parts resonate? Have you read the QIM Tunes?
I believe that neither of the deaths are directly related to measles per se. I did hear that one was a vaccine reaction.