A conversation with Jim Kunstler, touching upon household management, servants, welfare, USAID, the current administration, vaccines, New Urbanism, Radical Chic, nested hierarchies, wayfinding, hyper-complexity and salty snacks.
I have born and bred Caucasian American friends who love to do the “jobs” that pampered college indoctrinated Connecticut ladies apparently do not realize exist. Come visit North and South Carolina and I can introduce you to the most accomplished brick masons, carpenters, roofers, and landscapers. Thanks for assuming that the country needs illegals to perform this work.
Love Kunstler’s use of rackets. Growing up in Chicago, I learned that everything in the world has an associated racket, or hustle, or grift. He knows. Thanks 🙏 for sharing this discussion.
I think its a regional issue. Some places have a culture of serious and talented tradesmen (and sometimes women) who work hard and well. When I was in the Boston area, the tradesmen I knew were generally from Ireland, and I was interested to see that they were every bit as well-read as the paper-pushers around Cambridge. Their culture didn't separate an academic track from a working track. In many school systems in the US, I think the people who do better in conventional school subjects get funneled into college, while it is sometimes the less ambitious students who are nudged into the trades. I don't think this happens in every school system, but it certainly happens in some places - meaning, the trades are not treated like a serious profession, but rather like something that you do when you don't succeed in other subjects. I am not saying we need immigrant labor, but I am suggesting that certain immigrants, coming here with the express goal of earning money, are motivated to work. I talked to someone a few years ago with a carpet cleaning business. He says he now only hires women, since the men that worked for him would routinely quit, with the explanation that their "woman" was now supporting them. What on earth kind of culture is that? (I imagine Kunstler would have some things to say on that subject.)
I couldn’t agree more, — I’ve worked with my hands most of my life, from landscaping to framing and roofing and there’s plenty of capable Gringos around here on LI and it’ll be the best thing for ‘em. But please, that Connecticut lady — my sister Kate — I can assure you is neither pampered or indoctrinated, but is thoroughly awesome inside and out, and not deserving of any negative quips.
Kunster is awesome, I’m gonna start listening to his books.
Do not get black pilled! As collective creators of our own future, the last thing we want to do is create that very dystopia for ourselves, simply by believing so strongly in its inevitability. Even throughout that 40+ years of feeling the crushing weight of the coming apocalyptic nightmare, I somehow still had some faith that something could be done.
It's kind of funny now because I was Cassandra my whole entire life trying to convince the normies that shit was really really really fucking bad, like massive child rape and murder bad (I only knew how bad humans could be because I survived early childhood trafficking). I had lived over four decades with an ever-present sense of impending technocratic totalitarian DOOM coming for the whole planet. And in 2016, I was Trump deranged before TDS was a thing, believing we were only exchanging the corruption payee for the corruption payer. I said some awful things to some poor normies on Facebook in attempt to illustrate the direness of the situation (I had been using shock value to try to wake people up my whole life). But sometime, maybe late in 2017, that lifelong impending doom slowly and mysteriously just melted away. Strangely, my husband was going through the same exact process; for his own reasons, he had been just like me, constantly trying to tell people that they have no clue how fucked up things are to please start paying attention already before it was too late. But now, here we were, cautiously optimistic about the collective future for the first time in our entire lives. It sounds like you have now come to the place where my husband and I had lived our entire lives until just recently. I must admit, it is satisfying to see everyone else finally freaking out! But I well know what a difficult experience it is to live through, so I try not to be too dismissive of these fears. Obviously I still have them myself, but I also have come to trust that God has a plan to help us out of this mess. The astrology says that both Donald Trump and Elon Musk have roles to play in that plan, which is not theirs but God's, they just happen to be human beings with the temporal power to make things happen. I don't think it's going to take another 40 years before you're feeling much more optimistic about things, as the astrology also predicts a Golden Age coming for the world in 2026.
I have born and bred Caucasian American friends who love to do the “jobs” that pampered college indoctrinated Connecticut ladies apparently do not realize exist. Come visit North and South Carolina and I can introduce you to the most accomplished brick masons, carpenters, roofers, and landscapers. Thanks for assuming that the country needs illegals to perform this work.
Love Kunstler’s use of rackets. Growing up in Chicago, I learned that everything in the world has an associated racket, or hustle, or grift. He knows. Thanks 🙏 for sharing this discussion.
I think its a regional issue. Some places have a culture of serious and talented tradesmen (and sometimes women) who work hard and well. When I was in the Boston area, the tradesmen I knew were generally from Ireland, and I was interested to see that they were every bit as well-read as the paper-pushers around Cambridge. Their culture didn't separate an academic track from a working track. In many school systems in the US, I think the people who do better in conventional school subjects get funneled into college, while it is sometimes the less ambitious students who are nudged into the trades. I don't think this happens in every school system, but it certainly happens in some places - meaning, the trades are not treated like a serious profession, but rather like something that you do when you don't succeed in other subjects. I am not saying we need immigrant labor, but I am suggesting that certain immigrants, coming here with the express goal of earning money, are motivated to work. I talked to someone a few years ago with a carpet cleaning business. He says he now only hires women, since the men that worked for him would routinely quit, with the explanation that their "woman" was now supporting them. What on earth kind of culture is that? (I imagine Kunstler would have some things to say on that subject.)
I couldn’t agree more, — I’ve worked with my hands most of my life, from landscaping to framing and roofing and there’s plenty of capable Gringos around here on LI and it’ll be the best thing for ‘em. But please, that Connecticut lady — my sister Kate — I can assure you is neither pampered or indoctrinated, but is thoroughly awesome inside and out, and not deserving of any negative quips.
Kunster is awesome, I’m gonna start listening to his books.
I stand corrected! She would be welcome 🙏 in King Arthur’s court.
Do not get black pilled! As collective creators of our own future, the last thing we want to do is create that very dystopia for ourselves, simply by believing so strongly in its inevitability. Even throughout that 40+ years of feeling the crushing weight of the coming apocalyptic nightmare, I somehow still had some faith that something could be done.
It's kind of funny now because I was Cassandra my whole entire life trying to convince the normies that shit was really really really fucking bad, like massive child rape and murder bad (I only knew how bad humans could be because I survived early childhood trafficking). I had lived over four decades with an ever-present sense of impending technocratic totalitarian DOOM coming for the whole planet. And in 2016, I was Trump deranged before TDS was a thing, believing we were only exchanging the corruption payee for the corruption payer. I said some awful things to some poor normies on Facebook in attempt to illustrate the direness of the situation (I had been using shock value to try to wake people up my whole life). But sometime, maybe late in 2017, that lifelong impending doom slowly and mysteriously just melted away. Strangely, my husband was going through the same exact process; for his own reasons, he had been just like me, constantly trying to tell people that they have no clue how fucked up things are to please start paying attention already before it was too late. But now, here we were, cautiously optimistic about the collective future for the first time in our entire lives. It sounds like you have now come to the place where my husband and I had lived our entire lives until just recently. I must admit, it is satisfying to see everyone else finally freaking out! But I well know what a difficult experience it is to live through, so I try not to be too dismissive of these fears. Obviously I still have them myself, but I also have come to trust that God has a plan to help us out of this mess. The astrology says that both Donald Trump and Elon Musk have roles to play in that plan, which is not theirs but God's, they just happen to be human beings with the temporal power to make things happen. I don't think it's going to take another 40 years before you're feeling much more optimistic about things, as the astrology also predicts a Golden Age coming for the world in 2026.
Apparently speech-to-text is not a grammar nahtzee like myself, drives me nuts 😂
Listening from the farming village of Wetwang East Yorkshire UK. So interesting. You both make great sense. Thank you.
The gender thing is definitely a huge medical racket, not just a little distraction of a side hustle.
https://open.substack.com/pub/margox/p/breast-offerings?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=1dvul1
Robespierre was sent to the guillotine and positioned face up so he could see the blade on its way down.